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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Proposals......." 1 2 Proposals....... (13) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Sun 24 Feb 08, 9:16 PM Life_of_Vassalage US(MI), 4 yrs Here's a somewhat silly question for you all.....When a Master/Dominant proposes marriage, do they get down on one knee? If lowering yourself physically is an act of slavery/submission, how does a dominant one "ask"? Do they ask or do they order? This subject just popped into my head last night in the car....I graciously welcome your experiences/opinions on this matter. To see the world in a grain of sand, and heaven in a wildflower, hold infinity in the palm of your hands, and eternity in an hour. -William Blake 24 Feb 08, 9:18 PM 741-498-880 4 yrs Life_of_Vassalage wrote: Proposals....... Here's a somewhat silly question for you all.....When a Master/Dominant proposes marriage, do they get down on one knee? If lowering yourself physically is an act of slavery/submission, how does a dominant one "ask"? Do they ask or do they order? This subject just popped into my head last night in the car....I graciously welcome your experiences/opinions on this matter. I asked him if he wanted to marry me... lol, blurted it out in the car actually... I just knew he was the one and I hated wasting my time... but im not a Dominant, im a submissive, he had the option of saying no. LOL 24 Feb 08, 9:22 PM koala_slave US, 4 yrs Good question, I'd like to know too .:koala:. 24 Feb 08, 9:26 PM Yarakot 6 yrs Life_of_Vassalage wrote: Here's a somewhat silly question for you all.....When a Master/Dominant proposes marriage, do they get down on one knee? If lowering yourself physically is an act of slavery/submission, how does a dominant one "ask"? Do they ask or do they order? This subject just popped into my head last night in the car....I graciously welcome your experiences/opinions on this matter. My mother proposed. "So, Steve, do you think you would ever consider marrying Carolyn?" My owner said yes. My mother said, "Good, because I've picked out the date and the location." I laughed because I thought it was a great joke we were having on my mother. Later that night on our evening walk I found out that he was serious and had decided to marry me and that short of packing my things and leaving the relationship entirely, that was the direction things would be going. It wasn't actually a proposal in the sense that I could say no. (I spent the next several weeks in an on and off again panic attack.) Carolyn "Each moment opens like a flower. The age of miracles comes every hour on the hour. Turn any corner, there's something new and nothing is too wonderful to be true." -- Launer, Shapiro, & Henning Edited 24 Feb 08, 9:30 PM by Yarakot 24 Feb 08, 10:45 PM little_linnet US, 6 yrs That's hysterical. Krista Long ago in a USENet far far away, the convention arose whereby discussion groups put together an FAQ, and when one of the oft-covered basic questions was raised, people could just say “Read the FAQ” or point to the specific answer... This was often known as handing the newbie a cluestick. 25 Feb 08, 1:37 AM slave_emma US(OK), 6 yrs Y! i asked my Master to marry me. He used His standard, "I'll take it under consideration" line. Then a little while later He agreed to it. Not terribly romantic, but i was still a happy girl when He said yes. best wishes, slave emma Master Howard's little girl 25 Feb 08, 2:02 AM ravenkaldera US(MA), 6 yrs Life_of_Vassalage wrote: Proposals....... Here's a somewhat silly question for you all.....When a Master/Dominant proposes marriage, do they get down on one knee? If lowering yourself physically is an act of slavery/submission, how does a dominant one "ask"? Do they ask or do they order? This subject just popped into my head last night in the car....I graciously welcome your experiences/opinions on this matter. Depends on whether they want to give the (assumedly female, guys don't usually give a damn about that crap) sub the message that they will be first and foremost their wife and only secondarily their submissive, or vice-versa. If the first, by all means pour on the romance, if that's what she wants and she's what you want. If the second, you say something like, "I'm thinking about the possibility of legalizing our relationship, for these reasons (X, y, Z, etc.), but it won't really change anything. You're still chattel. Do you have any serious objections to this? If so, I'm listening." No kneeling involved. Frankly, if the sub actually had serious objections, I probably wouldn't do it, if only because it's so expensive to get out of later. I'd find other ways to have many of the same legal benefits. But then you can see what kind of an unromantic bastard I am. (As I've said in other posts, I am so bad at being heterosexual.) -Raven Kaldera 25 Feb 08, 2:29 AM 688-764-833 US, 5 yrs Perhaps another way would be to have the s kneel and the Master inform her that he will be binding her to him in yet another way. Cheers, Leesie 25 Feb 08, 3:05 AM Yarakot 6 yrs ravenkaldera wrote: Depends on whether they want to give the (assumedly female, guys don't usually give a damn about that crap) sub the message that they will be first and foremost their wife and only secondarily their submissive, or vice-versa. If the first, by all means pour on the romance, if that's what she wants and she's what you want. If the second, you say something like, "I'm thinking about the possibility of legalizing our relationship, for these reasons (X, y, Z, etc.), but it won't really change anything. You're still chattel. Do you have any serious objections to this? If so, I'm listening." No kneeling involved. So, I don't know if mine was a pour on the romance situation or a you're still chattel situation. It really doesn't feel like either, quite frankly. It feels like the kind of detached pragmatism my owner brings to everything. My owner saw it as solving many problems (only some of which he shared with me prior to marrying me and some he didn't tell me until years later) and so he moved forward with it. His manner of dealing with it wasn't BA's brusque manner, it wasn't your kindly "if you have serious objections, I'm listening" it was just practical and forceful and taking advantage of the opening my mother created. I had many, many serious objections to marriage, starting with "It will ruin our relationship" and "You have no idea how miserable my mother will make us if we do this. She'll make us visit" and moving from there. I discussed my concerns non-stop on our evening walks. None of them did me any good. I felt absolutely powerless throughout the lead up to it, as my owner pushed me forward toward the day and my parents squeezed my very soul from me in the preparations. It did turn out that my owner was right. I was happy by the end of the process, it did solve many problems and issues, and afterwards he made my parents behave. So that was another miracle. But it doesn't feel like either style you describe. Perhaps my owner is just uniquely himself. Carolyn "Each moment opens like a flower. The age of miracles comes every hour on the hour. Turn any corner, there's something new and nothing is too wonderful to be true." -- Launer, Shapiro, & Henning 26 Feb 08, 11:46 AM dark_heart_dawning US, 5 yrs Y! I must admit this thread made me smile... My Master DID propose to me on one knee, in front of my entire family. Even before saying yes (but after starting to cry) I told Him to please get up!! He pretty much knew the reaction I'd have to Him doing it that way and I am fairly certain that is exactly why He did it! 26 Feb 08, 6:24 PM little_linnet US, 6 yrs Just a thought: we're working on this assumption: Life_of_Vassalage wrote: If lowering yourself physically is an act of slavery/submission Which is just that, an assumption. *IS* physically lowering yourself an act of slavery or submission, necessarily? I don't think it is. Mr Linnet proposed to me standing up, as it happens and he wasn't even my master at the time, but if he were to propose to me now and drop to one knee to do it I don't have any reason to think that would make him less dominant. He often hunkers down to talk to me when I'm on my knees, and sometimes his head ends up below mine. I always feel like the small, humble one in those situations. Krista You never do the things you should But I like it Next page