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	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "How do you ask someone?" 1 2 How do you ask someone? (16) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. 1 Sep 07, 3:46 AM submissivesmartass US, 5 yrs Everyone has given me such wonderful suggestions. I can't wait to try them out! I think that in case, the subtle approach will work best and be all that is needed. He has told me before that he notices everything, and I believe he does. He seems to respond better to the more subtle approach, at least for now. We had an email exchange this week about my upcoming trip to his city. We were trying to arrange plans. One of the nights I'm there I asked him if he could take the evening off work so we can do something together. He isn't able to that night because of a big event at his work. But he responded with "since I am not available that night, you will going to (filled in the name of local town and tourist activity). I loved it! He just came out and chose my activities for that night! And it was something that he knew I would love to do. Think this man might have a few Dom tendencies? hehe I can't wait for this trip. Except for that one evening, we will be together most all of the time. It should be fun to try to wiggle my way to a place at his feet. Let the games begin!!! Peace. "I'll tell you," said she, in the same hurried passionate whisper,"what real love is. It is blind devotion, unquestioning self-humiliation, utter submission, trust and belief against yourself and against the whole world, giving up your whole heart and soul to the smiter-as I did!"-Dickens "Great Expectations" 2 Sep 07, 7:30 PM Cerono US, 4 yrs Did it go well? 3 Sep 07, 4:42 AM submissivesmartass US, 5 yrs Cerono wrote: Did it go well? I don't know yet. We will see each other again in 2 weeks. I can't wait! "I'll tell you," said she, in the same hurried passionate whisper,"what real love is. It is blind devotion, unquestioning self-humiliation, utter submission, trust and belief against yourself and against the whole world, giving up your whole heart and soul to the smiter-as I did!"-Dickens "Great Expectations" 8 Sep 07, 2:19 PM 000-588-505 US(CA), 8 yrs one other thing i thought of... if you are in a group in someone's house, instead of sitting next to him on the sofa, sit on the floor next to him using the excuse that this will allow a seat for someone else..., then you will be at his feet, lower than him and you can hold on to his leg or rub his foot, etc. He will be above you and can put his hand on your head or shoulder and you can lean towards it, etc. Then you can ask if he wants anything and go get it for him, do not get anything for yourself, bring back HIS drink and sit back down on the floor. He will notice that you just served him and not yourself! 8 Sep 07, 3:45 PM 424-902-765 US, 4 yrs have you tried telling Him what it is you are into? perhaps mention a book you read (story of O, sleeping beauty, etc) ask if He ever read it and what He thought of it. if he's read it then that will easily open the door. if he has not and likes to read take this time to talk about the book. when i first started telling some of my friends that i am a slave i was nervous. i mentioned it to my longest and dearest friend first. turned out she is a sub. shes not nearly as open about it as i am but it gave me someone to talk to. another one of my friends, while she does not understand all of it (fire/electro/knife play) she does enjoy hearing stories and even seeing some of the pictures. i've even brought some of friends to a bdsm club. not all are as deeply into the lifestyle as i am but all are touched with it somehow. your friend might be into it and your mentioning it casually could open up doors. we all started somewhere and this might be what brings him into not only the lifestyle but your life as well... good luck with this. "When love cast me out, it was Cruelty that took pity on me" 25 Sep 07, 2:11 AM submissivesmartass US, 5 yrs Thank you everyone for your comments and suggestions. Here is an update: I guess not everything has a happy, fairytale ending. I had a wonderful trip and got to spend alot of time with my friend, but very little one on one time. We did have our usual little private conversations, even amongst a crowd. Also, I did pretty much come out and tell him about my involvement in this lifestyle (in a discrete way via email). I had to call him about something else right about the time he would have been reading my email, and when he heard it was me, he just started laughing. Not making fun of me laughing, but in warm hearted way. Unfortantely, the very vanilla lady I was staying with was standing right next to me, so I couldn't say anything about it at the time. The one hopeful thing was that we did get a few brief moments right before I left. He told me "I can give you everything, but only if you move here. I am not looking for anything less." So we are still good friends, but I guess this isn't going to go much farther until I make the decision to move to his city. I understand his decision, and although it is not what I would have chosen at this moment, in the end, it is probably for the best. "I'll tell you," said she, in the same hurried passionate whisper,"what real love is. It is blind devotion, unquestioning self-humiliation, utter submission, trust and belief against yourself and against the whole world, giving up your whole heart and soul to the smiter-as I did!"-Dickens "Great Expectations" Edited 25 Sep 07, 3:09 AM by submissivesmartass