This page sponsored by JT's Stockroom    [other banners]

	TSR : Web boards : M/s D/s O&P : "Recognizing behaviours. [homework help]" Recognizing behaviours. [homework help] (3) This post is on the M/s D/s O&P web board. Fri 19 Jan 07, 6:24 AM 796-960-011 US, 6 yrs Y! Hello, A/all. i am not sure if this is the correct area to post this question. However, from some of the topics of late on this board, my best guess is that Masters such as Sir Tanos, Sir Ravenkaldera, and maybe Sir Phillip would have some good advice. In addition to studying for my national certificate for massage therapy, i am also studying Polarity, and going for the APTA certification [RPP] also. The class i am currently under taking is about communication and recogniziing when someone has gone too deep into a negative space, or conversly too euphoric. i understand that many cues, such as body language, speech, etc can let you know, as well as the energetic exchange. However, it occured to me that Masters do this, daily, with thir charges. And, as i am having a difficult time recognzing the extremes, and their subtleties, i would greatly appreciate some ideas on how to recognize this in mostly complete strangers, and how to be confident in my abilities to lead them to at the very least, neutral space. It seems a delicate balance. i know the classroom situation is more extreme, and potentially unnerving because you develop a rapport with your classmates. In all reality, i am uncomfortable with this position, yet i enjoy doing polarity, but not this communication stuff. i feel so... exposed. To me, it feels as if they are taking a lead, and grabbing what seems to be what a Master does, and... i'm rambling now and not really sure where the point is but i do know i need some advice. 19 Jan 07, 2:46 PM Gavriel US(GA), 5 yrs "Too deep" or "too euphoric" are arbitrary value judgments that don't mean anything without context. Too euphoric for what? If I want to maintain the ability to communicate with someone then I can't do that if they're slackjawed and drooling... but, slackjawed and drooling may be just fine if communication isn't important at that particular moment. You have to define where your lines are before you can evaluate whether you've crossed them. 19 Jan 07, 10:23 PM Sluggo55555 US, 6 yrs Y! I'll make the assumption that in a professional setting that you want to give your clients the experience they are looking for and not "top" them. The answer is that people say no differently and that in the interview process if you ask a question that you already know the answer to, and I mean a simple question that the answer is no then look, listen, and feel the reaction (it will be non verbal) it may be a muscle tightening or a color change or anything. It may be quite subtle until you learn to recognize it. It may be that you have to ask that question from behind them so you can gage that reaction when they're face down on a table. It can also be very useful to know their reaction to a yes question. Unfortunately there are really no universal responses to no. Fortunately it's easy to learn to detect that sort of subtle response and all you have to know is to find it. That is a really insightful question even if you didn't know how to frame it. Does that answer it for you? Victor 20 Jan 07, 5:10 AM 796-960-011 US, 6 yrs Y! It is from my understanding that you do not want the client to go into any extreme. i do understand that extremes are subjective and dependent upon the person. And, well, "topping" isn't something i wish to do in any context... But, in the polarity situation, i am assuming that a middle of the road context is better than one with a client swinging into extremes. i'm not really sure how the energy movements create the emotional responses, i just know they do. And my conclusion would be to moderate how fast the energy blocks get moved, etc. But, how or what do you look for in the body for people who are getting really maniacly euphoric or the opposite? If someone has their eyes closed, and has an otherwise placid facial expression... ??? My instructor has said that you learn to hold space and lead them out. However, that would entail me knowing what to look for. i kind of figured it would be like knowing what to look for in a s-type's body during, say, a pain session. There may not be verbal communication, but Masters tend to know when their charges are not where they really ought to be, like when they've 'checked out'. It's this communication bit. Not something i'm very good at verbally [my new Sir has decided this must change]. Eye contact, reading body language, usage and then understanding how to use that and lead them through the change they want is rather challenging. i really wish i knew how to explain this better.